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 In Nirma's bungalow in Lahore, loud music and unexpected shrieks are a constant distraction for an unsuspecting visitor. A little later it dawns on the unsuspecting visitor that the abode is also being used as a mini studio by the actress. After the prerequisite half an hour delay Nirma emerges from her room. Wearing light blue jeans with a tight top, holding a Panda toy in her arms, Nirma confirms that she may be down but is not out.Upbeat even after many ups and downs in her filmi career, she comes across as a candid and a sensible actress who has learnt how to deal with difficult questions.
Resham claimed at the Zee Cine Awards that she has worked in one hundred movies. How many have you worked in?
laughs I understand what you are trying to say. But I wouldn't exaggerate or distort the facts as I feel that public is well aware of our records and achievements. So far I have worked in 25 to 30 movies.
You have just been nominated at the National Awards for three different categories (dancer for Laaj, supporting actress for Behram Daku and best actress for Shararat). How would you justify it? Besides, do you feel Awards are given on merit?
These nominations just show my versatility as an actress. As far your second question is concerned I don't really think that awards are always a fair play. Some years back I and Gia Ali were nominated in the best actress category. I was nominated for Qarz and Gia for film Deewaney Terey Piyar Key. My role was more multidimensional but it was not considered for the award. So I don't think that it is always a fair game by award distributors.
What qualities mark a talented actress?
Natural instinct for acting, education, acute observation and good dancing skills.
Why education?
With the passage of time when one moves on to do complex characters, education is the only tool that can help you deal with the pressures and understand the depth of the character. Secondly it polishes your character and attitude. Gone are the times when education was of least importance in the industry. New angles, new equipment, fresh thinking all could be made possible through education alone.
Why is speaking in English such a big issue with our actresses? Why do our actresses try to compete with each other on the basis of fluency in English language?
Frankly speaking, English is an international language. I learnt English because I felt a need for it since I often go abroad for variety shows etc. You meet foreigners there so you are required to converse with them in English. Being fluent in English, however, does not make you a good or bad actress.
Now that the film industry isn't offering much in terms of work, how do you maintain your lifestyle?
No doubt the quantity of work today has declined significantly but our source of income is mainly stage performances in and outside the country. I charge a good amount for those few minutes of performance. Apart from that I do TV, video and commercial shows too.
You have no inhibitions while displaying flesh in movies and for your stage performance.
I don't mind the flesh show, as audiences are hardly likely to look upon us as their sisters. They come to see us dance and perform and there are specific costumes for that. Besides what is Saima doing except display her considerable bosom in her films? Neeli did it in Jo Dar Giya Wo Mar Giya, Meera in Khilona, Reema in Chaudhary Badshah and Resham in Kurion Ko Daley Dana. I mean everyone has done such a role as by its very definition the heroine is overall a dream girl and a sex symbol. But be clear that my entry in Raja Pakistani, Qarz etc. was as an artist not as a vamp. Subsequently it's the circumstances that force us to play that foul role.
Where do you think Lollywood stands today?
Right now it is in the middle of progression and regression. Our cinema is regressing because we haven't been able to match up to international standards. At the same time progress comes in the form of new chapters of co-production and joint collaboration with India. Besides some talented people from Karachi like Jami, Saqib Malik, Asif Raza plan to make films in the future which gives us reason to be hopeful.
Who do you think is responsible for the industry's downfall?
I think it's everybody including the public. If it encourages substandard and vulgar films and songs then naturally such characters will be in demand.
But how can you hold the public responsible. They will see what you do. It is the artist's responsibility not to work in such films?
Bhai why blame artists. He/she has to act according to the producer and director's demand and we need money too. If we refuse to accept the role some other artist would do it and we will starve.
So what is art to you?
Art is life and film is part of life.
Mag4you.com: What do you think of co-production between India and Pakistan?
There is no harm in co-production. Pakistani films can only attain quality if it is confronted with fair competition from films from across the border. But money is not the sole factor at stake here. It's the quality and standard of the product and the professional ethics, which go into work. I do believe that co-production will certainly eliminate the Jagga and Gujjar mafia.
Why are Reema, Meera, Veena, Zara hungry to work in Bollywood?
It is all a tactic to stay in the news. Two years ago Meera claimed that Karan Johar has signed her in next film but Johar's Kabhie Khushi Kabhie Gham is over so where is Meera? Reema's recent visit to Mumbai was nothing but a photo session. I have nothing against working in Indian movies but one shouldn't sell one's dignity. Before signing any film it's crazy to make tall claims.
And have you any offer from Bollywood so far?
Yes, director David Dhawan has signed me for his upcoming Aankhen which has Salman Khan in the lead. Director Satish Kaushik too has offered me a meaty role in his forthcoming film. The name is yet to be finalized. Thirdly Subhash Ghai too seems interested in signing me for his film.
So do you think Pakistani actresses would be able to compete with Bollywood talent?
Bollywood actresses are not exceptional. They are not made of any special substance. Our past record shows that despite several constraints we have always managed to do a good job. When we do shows abroad Pakistani performers always outclass Indian performers. The real test would be to work with artists of the calibre of Naseerudin Shah and Shabana Azmi. I am more than willing to work with these artists.
What type of role are you looking for?
The kind of role that Shabana Azmi did in Anhoni and Maasoom or the one that Babra Sharif performed in Shabana.
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